Not so “Green,” No-Drop Idle Mixture Adjustment Method

I find the factory recommended idle mixture screw setting specs to be very close to ideal. They are listed here for the Honda GL1000.

Idle FUEL Mixture Screw on Honda GL1000

I do usually richen them up an extra 1/8 to 1/4 turn (out) to compensate for the leaner modern “gasoline” which is diluted with ethanol in most US markets.

But sometimes, you just need an excuse to do some high performance tuning on your bike! 🙂 

I’ve found this method recommended by Ross Davis of Trackside Cycles to be worth the effort.

Ross Davis of Trackside Cycles

Per Ross: 

“With the bike fully warmed up and ALL other ignition and carburetion tune-up issues addressed …make sure the idle adjustment mixture screws are set to the factory recommended setting for your model. 

Carefully adjust the synchronization. Leave the sync equipment in place. 

Then, simply adjust each idle mixture screw slowly in/out to obtain the highest possible idle speed.

Idle FUEL Mixture Screw on Honda GL1000

A super sensitive shop quality tach will help a lot.  The tachs on vintage bikes are notoriously inaccurate and not sensitive enough for this procedure. 

Be sure to readjust the main curb idle adjustment screw to maintain 1000 rpms as necessary… before and after each idle mixture screw adjustment. That’s it!

Curb Idle Adjustment Screw on Honda GL1000

Another carb sync afterwards might be advisable for those who are highly anal.

This is not the “greenest” setting, but this is the best performing setting!”

Notes:

  • Do a valve adjust and a compression test (in that order) before you begin to verify that you have healthy compression …vital for a smooth idle.
  • This procedure equally works well on bikes with either idle FUEL mixture screws or idle AIR mixture screws. (Most of the Honda models supported by Randakk’s have idle FUEL mixture screws.) Make sure you know the type of mixture screws you have!
  • Idle FUEL mixture screws: Turn OUT to richen, Turn IN to lean.
  • Idle AIR mixture screws: Turn IN to richen, Turn OUT to lean.
  • The typical “greenest” spec laid out in service manuals covering bikes of this vintage describes variations of the “idle drop” method. This typically involves “leaning out” the mixture screws from the highest rpm settings (or sometimes the recommended stock setting) by an amount sufficient to cause an rpm drop of a certain spec …e.g., 50 rpms. This reduces low speed emissions enough to “pass” certification requirements imposed by various jurisdictions, but it is definitely not best for low speed and off-idle performance.

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  1. I recently came to own a 1976 GL1000: It’s in pretty nice condition with only 36,000 miles on it. It has new tires, new plugs and a fresh carb rebuild and sync.
    It starts and runs nicely but it has no power, gets atrocious gas mileage and the plugs indicate a very lean condition:”

    The bike is all original except for an aftermarket set of mufflers. Much to my surprise they actually sound quite nice, sort of like an Italian sports car

    I have made some adjustments but the overall effect is nil. I am wondering if the aftermarket mufflers are causing the lean condition and the carbs need rejettting. Any suggestions would very much appreciated.

    Thanks

  2. So I have been fussing with the mixture screws on my valkyrie interstate after I synced my carbs, I finally got about 2-5/16 on all and it runs way better than before but I know I can do better..Recently I bought a super sensitive suntune tach cp 7602. It is sensitive too! so my question is as I clamp the inductive clamp around some of the plugs I see a jump in the needle which to me would represent a misfire. Couple of the other cylinders are steady, so would it be safe to say to adjust the mixture screws till the tach is steady? And of course do all the corresponding cylinders in the same manner?

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